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Episode #16
In this powerful concluding episode, Bassey Simon sits down with Thembi Becker to explore the emotional, financial, and mindset challenges immigrants face when transitioning to a new country. From battling loneliness and scarcity thinking to redefining success beyond material possessions, Thembi shares hard-earned lessons from her journey from Zimbabwe to Canada. This episode delivers practical wisdom on wealth building, community, purpose, and intentional living.
Thembi Becker - From $5 to Millions: Mindset Shifts, Wealth, and Purpose in the Immigrant Journey
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This episode key take away, practical tips, & Lessons Learned
Key Take Aways
- Avoid measuring success by possessions; focus on **net worth, not appearances**.
- Do not overwork with multiple jobs expecting financial freedom—it often leads to exhaustion, not wealth.
- Invest in **skills and experience**, not just degrees.
- Volunteer strategically to build skills, networks, and visibility.
- Expand your network beyond your immediate cultural community.
- Read consistently and expose your mind to new thinking.
- Be intentional about debt—avoid unnecessary financial burdens.
Practical Tips & Lessons Learned
**Embrace Your Uniqueness** Your accent, cultural perspective, and minority status are assets, not obstacles. These differences make you memorable and can set you apart in business and professional settings.
**Use Cultural Differences as Market Opportunities** Different cultural perspectives allow you to see gaps in the market that others might miss. You can serve communities or solve problems that mainstream businesses overlook.
**Build Bridges Between Communities** Your ability to understand multiple cultures positions you perfectly to facilitate business between different communities or help companies reach diverse markets.
**Leverage Your Story** Your immigration journey demonstrates resilience, adaptability, and courage - qualities highly valued by employers and business partners. Don't hide your story; use it to show your strength.
**Network Strategically** While staying connected to your cultural community for support, actively expand beyond it. Attend meetup groups, professional events, and join organizations where you can meet people from different backgrounds. Your diverse perspective adds value to these networks.
**Combine Cultural Knowledge with Local Skills** Take your cultural insights and combine them with skills relevant to your new country - like online marketing, which Thembi emphasized as the "new gold mine."
**Position Yourself as a Cultural Bridge** Companies increasingly need people who can help them understand and serve diverse populations. Your cultural background makes you invaluable in this role.
The key is to see your differences as strengths rather than barriers, and actively use them to create opportunities others cannot.
Resources Referenced During the Episode
- Volunteering as a pathway to skills and opportunity
- Online marketing and digital work as modern income channels
- Community meetups and networking events
- Barack Obama’s early community-volunteering work in Chicago
This episode concludes an inspiring and deeply honest conversation with Thembi Becker, an immigrant entrepreneur who arrived in Canada with just five dollars and went on to build wealth, purpose, and impact. Together, Bassey and Thembi unpack the hidden emotional struggles of immigration—loneliness, cultural dislocation, identity loss, and unrealistic expectations about financial success.
The discussion moves beyond survival to intentional living, highlighting the dangers of the scarcity mindset, overworking, lifestyle inflation, and debt. Thembi contrasts consumerism with wealth accumulation, shares lessons learned from real estate investors, and challenges immigrants to rethink education, experience, volunteering, and community building. The episode closes with a call to purpose, as Thembi explains her mission to empower one million women through digital skills and online income opportunities.
Episode Transcript
Bassey Simon 0:07
Hello, navigators nation, welcome back to to the concluding portion of our interview with Miss Thembi Becker. Them be is an immigrant that migrated from Zimbabwe to Canada with only $5 in her pocket, and we've already heard the story of how she actually got that $5 which is intriguing in it by itself, but, but she has used that $5 and multiplied it millions of times. And I am happy to welcome back Thembi to the program.
Thembi Becker 0:45
Thank you.
Bassey Simon 0:45
Thank you so much. So the last time we were talking about this, the things that we should do, we talked about being able to educate ourselves. We talked about being able to ask questions. We talk about being able to have the bigger wise, and that that is way better when you have your bigger why you are able to achieve a lot of things, because that is what is going to drive you so. And then you also mentioned that you have to remember, sort of where we came from, and be able to think about how we could do things. But let me, let's get one more fun part of another thing that is a little bit fun before we go into the harder the difficult stuff, like tackling difficult questions here. So I know that when the first time we came, we came to this country, what were some of the biggest challenge that you had to face in Canada when you got here? I mean, I know you talked about some of them you that you dreamt of getting several cars and send some home, and within the two months, that would be amazing, and that was fine, but what are? What that what were the other challenges that you faced? For example, some of the challenges that new people face is being able to integrate, okay, being able to communicate so they could be understood. I mean, we can list so many here. You probably everybody's challenge is different, but what were some of your challenge and how did you overcame them?
Thembi Becker 2:35
I think for me, there was a lot of mindset issues. And I think this is a challenge which a lot of us as Africans deal with, because you come home, you come from Africa, where you feel that if you have a job, life shall be easier. But then life doesn't get easier. Being here, it actually, if anything, it gets tougher. There's a lot of emotional challenges which we face, and I don't know if I would call it depression, but it's more of the loneliness in a new country where you can't talk, you can't you've been speaking your language for 20 years, and all of a sudden now you have to speak a different language. You have to speak in English, and you have to communicate with people who don't get you, and you have to there's a big cultural difference, like I could say to my sister something, but if I say this to someone here, another girl, it will be interpreted differently. So there was a lot of that, a lot of those challenges. And then you start wondering, is it me? Am I wrong? Is it about me, or these people are just weird, so you kind of just start and it's that's why I think it's so important, especially when you first arrive, to continue surrounding yourself with people like you to help that transition easier, because it is so hard coming in to just try to transition into the Canadian system are coming in from the African system, because we have a different culture altogether, and we have a different mindset and the emotions of just not having somebody who really understands who gets you, who gets your jobs, because our jobs are completely different than the jobs they have. Somebody who really gets your jobs. It can be an emotional drain. I think those were some of the challenges for me. It was even worse because I had left my daughter back home, and so I had those emotions of dealing with my Will I ever see my child. Will she ever know me? If I ever see her, will she know who I am, you know? So I think it was really mainly the the emotional stuff, more than anything else, physically. And I want to add to that, actually the physical aspects, even though we feel that when we come here, life is going to be easier. Are. These are more work. The work here is physically demanding compared to the work to the jobs we did back home. So they we also have to be careful not to go into that position where we are physically and mentally exhausting ourselves by thinking we'll ever have enough money. Because I can tell you, I worked two jobs. I did it. I did the two jobs, and I never had more money. If anything, I started shopping more.
Speaker 1 5:29
That's so true.
Thembi Becker 5:30
Yeah. So try to avoid this exhaustion, exhausting yourself to think you have to work two jobs to so that you can finally catch up, because you'll never catch up. And the problem with working two jobs and making more money is you end up spending and sending more money back home, which, if you, as we all know, you'll never send enough money to Africa, never,
Bassey Simon 5:55
never. That's true. Wow, that's so good. I think it's it. I just want to take a detour and talk about this for a few minutes, because I think some of the challenges that we see, I see personally, for all these years I've been here, I happen to be one of those that have a different kind of way of thinking, too. And we see a lot of people that define the success in terms of how many money, how much money that they have. And you've rightly said you can have three jobs or two jobs or whatever. But the bottom line is that even if you you have those, you might not even be able to enjoy those things because you're outside working all the time, you don't have the time to actually enjoy the things of life that you actually end with this stuff. But I think maybe some of those things could come from when we come knowing where we came from, and all of a sudden we find ourselves that we could get some of these things easily, so to speak. And some of us kind of go into situation where we take more than we can get in a way, and then the only way to make it work is to now start running around and working four or five jobs to get yourself situated, because you have all these obligations that you found yourself into. It seems you have a lot to speak about that
Thembi Becker 7:32
I want to speak to that. I remember when I was a student. I was a nursing student at that time, and I used to love going to Future Shop. It was called Future Shop. I don't know if it still exists like Best Buy. Yeah, I think it shut down a few years ago. Anyways, I used to love going there during my break, because it was right next to my college. And I used to go with a friend of mine, who was Filipino. He was a he was a Canadian born Filipino, anyways, and I remember there were so many big screen TVs at that time, like, you know, those big TVs which, which could stand on their own and all that. And I And for me, it was a shock, because I've never seen such big TVs in my life. And I said, Oh, my God, these are big TVs. Who buys this? And the guy said, it's the Africans and the Italians. I will never forget that. I will never forget that. I was like, What do you mean? She's like, Yeah, they're the ones who buy these TVs, Africans and Italians are our biggest customers. And this was
Speaker 1 8:37
interesting,
Thembi Becker 8:38
yeah, that was so interesting for me. And then when I went into real estate, there's something which I noticed, I would sit with people who looked regular, and you'll be asking them at that time, I didn't have any properties, asking them, yeah, I have 20 properties. That 100 properties. I have 1000 properties. And then you're like, Oh my God, and you're carrying a Walmart handbag. And I used to wonder about this. It just blow my mind, because even the parking lot, I was driving a Toyota Corolla at that time, and the parking lot was because of really Toyotas and regular cars. And
Thembi Becker 9:25
yeah, yeah. I would like to finish that thought, yeah. So basically, what I was saying is what I noticed when I started investing in real estate, and meeting all these real estate investors, and we, once you talk to them, you realize, oh, my God, this is what they do. But when you're looking at those simple people who really were wearing Walmart shirts and Walmart jeans. And I think I learned a lot from that, because I was coming from Africa with the mindset that, and I'm not saying that coming from Africa is what made me have the mindset. Maybe it was just me, but my mindset was, if you have 10 properties, at least. Is you should be driving a Mac, you should be driving a BMW, you should be living in a mansion. And I'm meeting all these people who literally live in simple, nice houses, and their net worth is just ridiculous. And I took a lot of that. I took I learned a lot. We spoke about learning earlier when we spoke about learning is not just in classroom, but it's just in people you associate with. And I learned a lot associated with those real estate investors. And I'm not saying that not all of them went like that, but I noticed that a majority of the white people, and I mean, of the Americans, I'm not talking about immigrants of Americans. They continue to live the same lifestyle which they already had before, which was comfortable, without driving the latest BMW, without driving the latest Range Rover, without going all fancy on stuff. Instead, they concentrate on accumulating wealth. And I think that's really where I got most of my lessons from. I drive a Nissan, believe it or not, and people laugh at me, and I I meet people who say, I can't believe you drive a Nissan. I'm like, I like it comfortable. I don't need another car. You know, I'm a very simple person, and I don't think it has anything to do with me being me, but it's the lessons I took from associating myself with successful real estate investors.
Bassey Simon 11:35
Wow. Well, let's have one more fun question before we we get past here. Well, I'll start this by giving you mine. So one of the questions, I call this, what is the most annoying question that you have been asked since you've been in this new country of yours and or maybe, well, let me just give you like simple one. I've been asked so many things. And now, I mean, I got, I we got to the United States about 97 and of course, you would think at that time, people are so aware of what is going on around the world. And I was surprised. People were asking me, how did you get here? How did you and I was like, oh, okay, what am I supposed to tell them? I said, Okay, I just told them. Well, you know that a big Atlantic Ocean over there, you know, I just swam across the Atlantic Ocean and I got here my fact, we have no airport in our place, and and they will be like, they will rule their eyes, like, is that really true? I say, Yeah, I swam across the Atlantic Ocean. You didn't, you didn't hear about that in the news anyway. So I'd like to know some of your most ridiculous questions that you received, or annoying questions, if I might ask that,
Thembi Becker 12:52
I don't think they were annoying. I think really it was mainly surrounded by arrogance, and I think I have learned that people can be arrogant and people can be ignorant, and it has something to do with travel. And I think it happens to the best of us, where if you haven't been outside the country, I've met people who've never been outside the city they were born in. Really, your arrogance is so limited. Actually, it's not just limited to being from Africa. It's even limited to Canadians. I used to work in telemarketing and answering the phone, and I used to be asked really rude questions by Americans, of like, seriously, I'm just in Canada, just across across,
Speaker 1 13:41
across you?
Thembi Becker 13:43
Yeah, you know things like that. But I don't think it's got anything to do with being African. I think it's got something to do with people just being arrogant and not well traveled enough to know what's out there. And try to think of really a question which people have asked me. It's probably the same, like, Oh, I remember one girl asked me if I had a pet lion. Oh, yeah, exactly that would be, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know,
Bassey Simon 14:13
in that situation, them be you, you don't have to explain much, because they've already made their opinion that you actually have a pet lion. And as matter of fact, some of some of that's one of the questions that I was asked. And how many of those chimpanzees or monkeys or lions or elephants that I have in our backyard? I said I would tell some of them that are more civil. I would say, Well, do you really know that the first time I've actually seen those things is when I come here to the zoo. I've never seen any of those things. Surprise anyway,
Thembi Becker 14:49
oh, you could reverse the question and say, Do you have a pet there? Yeah,
Bassey Simon 14:53
maybe that's that's another way of putting it. Well, I'll reserve this other ones for. Other guests, but I have many of those, but I'll reserve it for another guest. Let's move on. So you have already taken time to answer a lot of these questions about advice, because you've been giving that as we've been going on. So I'm not going to label myself on that anymore, because you've given us a lot. But so what is one thing, okay, we you, you came to Canada, okay? You, you already grown. You have some attitude that you already built and developed within you, right? And you have your culture with you. Now I want you to tell us what are some of the things that you had to unlearn. I mean, you have to do away with those culture. So some of those lifestyles, some of the way you thought that helped you to succeed here, you have to, we all have to get rid of a lot of things for us to succeed in this place. So what are some of those things that you had to abandon. Even though it was kind of you, you thought that it was a great thing. It was part of life. That's where life always been. When you came here, you find out that, no, I gotta get rid of this one if I have to move forward. What are some of those things?
Thembi Becker 16:13
That's a very good question. Very good question. I think for me, it was the scarcity mindset when you're coming from where we come from, where you have so much slack and you never have enough. You don't think that giving to other people changes anything. You don't even believe in giving to people here in North America. You think that your giving is actually you have to be given to people in Africa who are suffering. And I think that's one thing I had to unlearn, because everybody loves receiving gifts, whether it's Donald Trump, who's got everything, or it's a poor marriage, or out there, everybody loves receiving gifts. And coming from discussing its mindset of, say, I can't give them because they have enough. Just has to go. And I think that's one thing why Africa is we're still poor because we're still in that scarcity mindset. We don't give, we just want to receive, receive, receive. And I think we could learn a lot from the Western world by giving, because they give, even if they have nothing, the people are donating $1 every day to the World Vision. Are not rich people. No, their people are struggling to make ends meet, and every month, they commit to giving a portion to charity. And I think that's one thing we as Africans should learn, is we don't give people just because we know them. We give to strangers as well, because I think we were stuck in this thing. Oh, I help a lot of people. I give a lot, but we're helping our families. What if we took a step, and we are the ones who are donating to the charities? What if we did that? And it doesn't have to be the non government, the charities, which we see, like wealth vision, it could be a charity back somewhere in another country. What if we started getting like that and stopped living this custody mindset of saying, Oh, they've got money. We don't have to. So I think that was one of the things. I really think was a big learning lesson for me. You know? The other thing, actually, which I think, I don't think I got caught up in this one, per se, but I see a lot of our fellow Africans getting caught up in and I'm not dissing education, but it is not about the degrees and the PhDs. You have to have a bigger reason why you're doing that. I feel like we were brought up in the sense that you have to go to school, you have to get a degree. When I get a degree, I have to go get a masters. When I get a masters, I have to go get a PhD. Why are you doing that? Why I see a lot of my African brothers and sisters going through so many great lengths to get a PhD to be a doctor. What is the deeper reason behind that? I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, but just take a step back and think, why am I doing this? Am I doing it just to add letters to my name, or am I doing it to make an impact in the world, or my Am I doing it to earn more money? Because if it is about earning more money, you're not going to earn more money, right? There's better ways to do it. There's easier ways to earn more money than getting a PhD, and if it is about getting a better job, I feel that people just go in and do all these degrees and without experience. I think experience is the most important thing. Get experience and maybe do your degree while is your at that job. But it's really setting me, saddens me, and I know it's a it's a cultural thing. We're told to do this, do that, do that, but it sentence me, because I see a lot of my African brothers and sisters. Are struggling just to get a PhD or to get a master's degree, all for nothing before, maybe it used to work, but now just think, what? Why are you doing it? I'm not saying don't do it. What's your bigger purpose?
Bassey Simon 20:18
Well, you know, I want to sort of piggyback on that idea about, I see a scarcity mindset a lot. I think you really hit it at the right core right there, that maybe it's because of what, where we came from. We just felt like there's not enough resources. I see people don't like to collaborate. I mean, most of navigators, especially from our part of the world, don't like to collaborate in a project and a business and stuff, because we're always thinking about how to outsmart the other person and and this idea of education, really, I think you just said something very important. There about, yes, you can have all these disagrees, but if you don't have the experience or the actual skill, okay, you have to have a skill. Okay? There's a difference between academic knowledge and actual practical knowledge, which is what is called a skill. Now, I think part of the reason why a lot of our people, a lot of people in the Western world, that succeed, if you really this is what I try to explain personally, when people say, Well, how come I didn't get that job? I said, Okay, look at your resume. Okay, by the time kids over here in their 14 years. From 1415, years, they're already working and that they earn all these skills, that if you sit side by side by them in an interview, they're definitely gonna outsmart you. That's one thing. The second thing, which I want to piggyback on your comment, is that some of the things that we do in terms of, I think there's something we have to learn too, I think, which is, we don't have this idea of where you touch on it, but giving. But I talk about giving in terms of volunteering for no reason to volunteering because you don't get paid. And most of the most of the volunteers. I mean, I have talked to people where I said, Well, let's go volunteer. Here. I was like, volunteer for what? How much are they going to pay me? You know, this things we have to unlearn to be a good member of this society. Really, I cannot tell you how many stories I've heard that people have benefited from volunteering, and sometimes, if we have the academic knowledge, this is why, how I wanted to tie these two up. We have this academic knowledge, but we don't have the skill. One way we can get this skill is just to go out and look forward to offer you the kind of academic knowledge you gain, and go volunteer over there and give your time and build your skill from there, and from there, you would be able to find a niche. People would begin to know you. People will begin to know what you can do. So I think that's that's a very good point that you brought up right there.
Thembi Becker 23:18
Yeah, Barack Obama. I don't know if you ever listen to his story, but really, how he became Barack Obama is because he volunteered for the community services in Chicago, exactly. Yeah, so I think it's important to volunteer Exactly. So when I say scarcity mindset and giving back, it's not just money. It could be your time, it could be your your gift. It could be anything. We need to start giving back and stop taking. We need to stop taking.
Bassey Simon 23:50
Wow, Thembi, it's been amazing time that we've had here talking about several things. So right now I'm going to turn the time over to you. I know right now you live in Zimbabwe, although you you have a dual living environment condition, which means you can live in Canada anytime you want, and but you choose to live in Zimbabwe right now. Tell me what you're doing in Zimbabwe right now. What are you doing there? Why did you decide to leave Canada, which we sell comfort. We were talking about reverse before you left Zimbabwe to Canada, but now you are going back to Zimbabwe to live there. So you mentioned that in the beginning. So now tell us, what are you doing there?
Thembi Becker 24:42
Yes. So my purpose, in my bigger way, is to empower 1 million women by 2025 I'm hoping that the number will exceed but right now, it is 1 million by 2025 and the only way I can do that is to be here physically. I just want to help women in Zimbabwe, because I. Live. No man should be stuck in an abusive relationship because of money. And I've realized that in Africa, a lot of our women are stuck in abusive relationships because because of finances. And so having said that, I decided to start a project where I could empower women. And one of this project is it's really about empowering them in modern ways. When we hear about women empowerment, usually we're hearing about people being taught how to sew a basket, how to knit another dress, or how to knit a jersey, those are Olden ways. The world is changing. The world is becoming digital. I was talking earlier, before we started this interview, how we should really hop onto this online world, because everything is going online right now, and I hire my team online, and I noticed when I'm looking for people to hire, I never see anybody from Zimbabwe. And I thought, what is happening with Zimbabwe? So I decided to come in and teach them how they could be virtual assistants and how they could create income online. Because I know that works, because I have done that.
Bassey Simon 26:05
Wow, you definitely defined what your bigger wise is, your bigger purpose and everything. And you have, you are doing it. You are not just talking about it. You have left the comfort of Canada. I know that we were supposed to have this interview on Tuesday, but you went to Zimbabwe, where, before the interview begins, your electricity went off. And I, you know, these are some of the things that makes you very unique. Them be, and I appreciate you taking the time to do that, you're you're doing a great job. So what are some of the specific things that you are doing to empower women right now?
Thembi Becker 26:49
Well, we hold live events, we've we hold live events about twice a week, where we teach these women how to be give them skills, how to be online, how to work online, which they already have a business, how to create income online, and then if they feel that it's a good fit for them, we do a four week intensive training, and we have one starting on Monday, and we go to different cities and basically teaching them that. So that's really one of the ways we are empowering. The other way is I take women from North America on safari trips to Zimbabwe. And when they come here, they also teach women some skills about marketing or how they could really be empowered.
Bassey Simon 27:30
Wow, that is, I mean, all of these things couldn't have been Could, could not be possible if you did not connect with people. I think one of the challenge that I see with our navigators, generally, especially ones from the ones who I know from Africa, I think we don't like to extend our reach to our other cultures and other people. We sort of build walls around ourselves, and we like to congregate with each other, which is fine, but in a society where all of your friends are not there anymore, you have to build a new community. So building a new community has helped you to do something that you're talking about right now, which is which is amazing,
Thembi Becker 28:20
yeah, yeah, I want to say something to that too. It seems like I always have something to say. I think it's important to stick to people of your community when you are first arriving, so that they can help with the transition easier, but after a few months. And I'm not saying that you should leave them after a few months deal with them, but you need to Expand your horizon, because your net worth is your network. If you continue surrounding yourself with people making $100,000 a year, you're gonna be stuck in the $100,000 arena. You need to move out of that. And it's hard to move out of that within our community, because we're such a small community, so you that's when you need to start expanding and going to networks, to live events, to start meeting people who are in the six, seven figure, digits, and something like that. I think it's really important to take a step back and just say, I love you my fellow Zimbabweans. I love you my fellow Africans. But guess what? I need to fly and you can't fly when you're surrounded by chickens. You need to just start surrounding yourself with eagles.
Bassey Simon 29:29
Well, you just take us to your your comfort zone right now. You've been comfortable all along, but your own core area of interest I know you have when I read your profile and I started you for this last few months, I know you, you helping women, not just in Africa. You're helping people. I saw a particular testimonial right somebody gave from somebody from California, I believe that talks about how you've helped help her. Yeah, so how do how do navigators do this? How do they break away from not You're not abandoning your community, but you are reaching out. How do we do that? How did you do it to get to the point where you are? How did you extend yourself and go out and meet all these people and and be able to be in a place where you can now feel like you're part of them, and you create your your vision, and you make it happen.
Thembi Becker 30:31
You have to join this so much abundance now with those groups, because before, we didn't have that, but now we have internet. There's so many groups which you can find online meetup groups. There's lots of meetups. So find your interest, whether it's art, whether it's, uh, cooking, find your interest. Join a meetup group in your area. You could start by that and through that Meetup group, you'll start meeting other, bigger groups, and maybe they'll tell you, Oh, there's a cooking group for Canada. There's a cooking seminar for Canada, and all cooks are going to be there. You could attend that. So start by doing that and surrounding yourself, really. That's kind of how I started. I started with a meetup group, and I started going to events, network events, and I started attending events. I attend on average about, I want to say, maybe 15 events a year on average. That's a lot.
Bassey Simon 31:27
That's that's so true. I don't know if you're familiar with Dan Miller or 48 days to the work you love. I've been following Dan Miller for the last nine or 10 years, I think, and I actually belong to his his small like mastermind group, where he calls for the eight days eagles. And I found out that people are so willing to help once you show interest that you want to be helped. And I remember posting things there when I when I'm struggling with some ideas, and I post things there, and people would volunteer to work with me, just because I belong to that community. So I think this is a very good area to stress that we need to go out. Because if you think about it, okay, think about it for a moment. The people that we grew up in with when we were younger, they are not with us anymore. Okay. They are back in wherever we are from, and their connection cannot really help you here. You know, they can't. You know, yes, if you go to your country that you came from, yes, it might help you, maybe or maybe not. But where we live is our country at that moment, so we have to find a way of being part of that society. I have two more questions, and we'll be done. Okay. One question is this, do you this is a short question, short answer you can do short answer. I think short answer is fine. So do you really think your decision to go to move to Canada was your best decision of your life? Yes, good. Now, since that was your best decision of your life, I know you learned a lot of things from Canada. You've shared so many things. You've told us a lot of things that you had to unlearn to get there. Now imagine you are the president of Zimbabwe today. What are two things that you could do to change that society, because everybody cannot move to Canada. What are those two things you can do?
Thembi Becker 33:50
I think I would change the mindset of people, the mindset. I don't know if you can change that, but what I really wish I could do is to tell people that they are responsible for their destiny. Because really, it doesn't matter if they move to Canada, it's not going to solve all their problems. Even if they move to the US, it's not going to solve all their problems. What they need is the desk is to change their mindset of how they function. Stop relying on on donors, on donations, because I think that our economy, African economies, are always begging and asking and asking, is time you stopped relying on donations and start building your own wealth and see, how can I create my own income given what we have, instead of waiting for the West To remove sanctions, right? That's really what I was. I was, I think that's what I would tell my people if I was the president. And the second thing is the two things, the second thing, that's a hard one, what if I tell them, other than the mindset? You.
Bassey Simon 35:00
Well, I think after changing people's mindset, yeah, when you change people's mindset, it think it's really what spiral into several things. Okay, exactly. So let, let's say tembi, you've given a lot of seminars, you've given, you've talked in front of several people, but you have never talked in front of a room full of immigrants before now, here is your opportunity. You're standing in front of 1000s of immigrants right now. Either they've just arrived or they've been here for a while, and they're still trying to find their way, and you know what they're going through because you've been there, right? And you know their fears you are. You know that they are wondering whether they would ever make it. Because this is a new environment. It's a new culture. Is new everything. Now, what are the things that you're going to tell them about? Three things you're going to tell them, Okay, you've given a lot of these nuggets before, but what are those three important things that they need to take into consideration to be successful in their new environment? Now I want to add the second part of it, which is, what are maybe at least two things that you would tell them, just avoid these things. You'll be just fine.
Thembi Becker 36:22
I three things. The first thing I say, go buy the book, rich, dead, poor, dead, and read it. That's going to help you change your mindset and program your mindset. The second thing look into online marketing is the new gold mine right now. Before it used to be gold, and then it was Bitcoin, and then it was all these other things. But now look into online marketing. You need to go into online marketing right now. And the third thing I would say is position yourself, unique positioning. We are so fortunate as Africans, we have our accent, we are different, we are minority. So that gives us unique positioning. Already. Take advantage of that. Take advantage of that, and just do it. Just Just do it. Just reach for the stars. You have an opportunity. Just reach for the stars. And then the two things, which you said, I want them to avoid, correct going going into too much debt. That's one thing. And secondly, narrowing their mind, you know, limiting their we already spoke about this, but limiting their surroundings and their beliefs, they need to start reading, stop, stop just going to work and coming home and watching TV, please start reading, start listening to podcasts, and you'll learn a lot.
Bassey Simon 37:49
Wow. We have been talking to them Becker for Seoul several, about 60 minutes right now, and she has been so gracious to give us so much nugget of information. So tell us the community right now, because this is the last portion of the last question that I will ask you. Tell us about some of the things that what you can offer the community right now, what you have for them. That's one. And tell us about you've mentioned that people should read, and you mentioned Rich Dad, Poor Dad. You are the second guest that I've mentioned that book. And by the way, I'm a fan of Rich Dad, Poor Dad. I've read that book, like several years ago, and I still read it. I have a copy every now and then. I take it up and pick it up and read so tell us one resource, a book or some, whatever resource you think is available that they can access, and if you like, you can share how they can reach you to if they want to connect with you, to give them some help and advice, or whatever you try to offer. This is your opportunity to do that. Absolutely. I
Thembi Becker 39:09
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Bassey Simon 39:58
Wow. Thank you so much. Thank you. So much. I appreciate your time today, and navigator nations you now, you would agree with me that them be was an amazing guest. It was worth the wait to have her on this program. I am sure we'll go. We will bring her back as an expert, because one of the area that we have on this platform is to bring somebody who's an expert in something. So I know she's, she's a real estate investor. I'm sure we will bring her back at some point to talk about real estate investment. How do people get started, and all of that stuff. So that's what this platform is for. We'll talk about this kind of things to help us basically leave our own navigating journey to whatever that success we define for ourselves. So again, them be appreciate you being on the program. Thank you so much, and we look forward to connecting with you in the near future.
Thembi Becker 41:01
Thank you so much for having me and not navigators. Don't forget to navigate your journey into this country.
Thembi Becker 41:08
Thank you so much.
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